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The Point of Diminishing Returns

We have all seen those throwers. The dude who has a 450lb bench press but can barely throw a shot 40 feet. They can squat 500lbs but they only take standing throws at 30 feet. They leave the coach bewildered, wondering how they can be so strong and yet throw so poorly.

We call those throwers, powerlifters.

Just kidding.

Maybe not.

Ok, back to the discussion. Those specific athletes bring tons of questions to the surface. How much is too strong? At what point should athletes stop worrying about maximum strength? Is there even a point of diminishing returns?

We have seen the videos of Daniel Stahl deadlifting over 700lbs for REPS! Does that mean we all have to deadlift 700lbs to throw 70 meters? We have seen him hit jerks over 500lbs, does that mean we need to jerk 500lbs for 70 meters? How about the videos of Gerd Kanter power cleaning 190k? Or Kanter front squatting 240k for reps? Are these numbers necessary?

Short answer. NO.

As throwers develop, it is very important to keep throwing and technical progress as the main focus early on in their career. While they learn the spin/glide and master that movement, the various positions and different feelings, they will comprehend their own means of optimal acceleration. This is where things start to get a bit cloudy.

Athletes develop differently, they have different mobility issues based on what they did in their lives growing up. Did they wrestle? Were they powerlifters at a young age (like Stahl)? Did they participate in Olympic lifting at a young age (like Kanter)? Were they gymnasts for a few years? Maybe they were simply couch potatoes?!?!